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Cow Spitters- John
Marshall H.S.
10/26/2010
We farmers, think that putting in coyotes would
be good thing because the coyotes would be
eating the deer. There would be less crop damage to
our food. By the deer damaging our crops,
they are putting us into bankruptcy. The coyotes
will discover where the deer are getting their
food source. Then coyotes would go to our livestock.
To solve the coyotes taking our livestock
and go back to the deer. We would get a donkey or a
llama. By getting llamas, they are more
expensive but if you breed them then you can sell
them to other farmers to protect their
livestock. Llamas’ fur is another way to make money
by getting one of these animals then their
good with putting coyotes in the area.
The coyotes are going to breed with our
domesticated dogs and creating dogs that has the
urge to hunt and kill more than a normal
domesticated dog would have. People are
domesticating
coyotes and raising them is going to give us more
money by us making the dog food. Coyotes
are getting into towns and they are eating our cats
and dogs, which will lose us money. The
domesticated coyotes are going to have that instinct
to attack and kill. They are running loose
in towns looking for food from people because they
were raised by people and look at then as
their food source. It’s putting people is rural
areas in danger. By putting the coyotes in there,
there are going to be a good outcome for some people
and others not.
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From:
The Deer Slayers - hunter - LHS-C
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10/27/2010
8:00:00 AM
I've never heard of a coyote and a dog mating. How is a
llama going to protect the
cows? I have heard of llamas protecting sheep but not
cows. I've also never walked
out of wal-mart and had a domesticated coyote attack me.
Response
Cow Spitters - farmer - JMHS
11/1/2010
6:51:00 AM
We said nothing about cows' in our point of view. Its
just our name.
From:
The Rubber Duckies - forester - JMHS
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10/28/2010
8:57:00 AM
What happens when the deer are gone and coyotes start to
do even more damage to your
crops? How will you prevent that from happenening?
From:
H, N & L Farms - farmer - PPHS
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10/28/2010
8:43:00 AM
if your domestic dog and a coyote mate its going to
higher the risk of people getting
hurt. you will have to keep it pinned up. thats not
going to work...
From:
Tree_Huggin_Hippies<3 - Other Stakeholder - NHHS
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11/3/2010
10:19:00 AM
We do not agree with your solution of putting coyotes
out to keep down the deer
population. This would just cause way more of a problem
then the deer population.
Having coyotes loose would be way more dangerous than
the deer population. Coyotes
are capable of so much injury and can kill humans. I
think we would rather hit a deer in a
car then to be attacked by a coyote.
http://tchester.org/sgm/lists/coyote_attacks.html
This is a link to a website stating dates and people who
have been attacked by coyotes.
From:
gibles - farmer - NHHS
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11/3/2010
10:04:00 AM
How exactly would domesticating coyotes caues us to make
money for dog food...
coyotes dont eat dog food, the eat live animals. and if
you wanna regulate the deer
population buy having coyotes hunt them, why would you
give them dog food?? Do you
really think this will work??
From:
The Keebler Elves - farmer - NHHS
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11/3/2010
6:32:00 AM
I agree with the comment left on this page,coyotes
wouldn't really do any crop damage
seeing as how they are carnivrous hunters, they do not
eat crops, they would help keep
the population down but i do not agree 10o % with
increasing the coyote population.
From:
NH insurance - Insurance Company - NHHS
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11/3/2010
6:25:00 AM
I believe that if coyotes mated with dogs it would be a
super awsome thing. we need
more diversity. maybe they will mate with the deer and
create a super animal. Im excited
you have great ideas like this it makes me happy that
your thinking outsside the bok =]
From:
Lions and tigers and deer oh my! - homeowner - NHHS
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11/3/2010
6:19:00 AM
We have to disagree with your POV. The first thing is,
what happens when there is a
coyote problem? They can get aggressive and attack
people and pets. We think having a
natural way to cut down the deer population is a good
idea, but not when it can be
dangerous to humans. The process you stated is a very
long, complicated and expensive
one.
From:
JJ Forest - forester - NHHS
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11/3/2010
6:18:00 AM
i love how you say we could bring a different species to
kill the deer instead of us
actually killing them. thats such a great idea. and its
so natural. i hate killing animals i
think its so cruel. its nice to let nature take its own
course.
From:
der shrederzzz - hunter - NHHS
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11/4/2010
9:55:00 AM
In order to get your hunters license, you have to pass a
hunter safety course with over a
70%.If you dont pass it, you dont get a license to
hunt.So the likeliness of someone
getting hurt is still about the same.Also, if the
population gets too low, then they can cut
back the days.
From:
Deer Dudes and Dudetes - Other Stakeholder - KLMS
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11/8/2010
1:41:00 PM
What does farming have to do with the coyote and dog
mating and why would you kill
something that hasn’t done anything to you? That animal
can cause a snowball effect to
the food chain.
From:
The Deer Rangers - hunter - KLMS
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11/8/2010
9:53:00 AM
But how long would that take before that happened? Also
would this cost any money.
From:
The Cultivators - farmer - KLMS
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11/9/2010
1:58:00 PM
How would the Llamas stop the coyotes from eating the
deer? Wouldn't the coyotes eat
the Llamas too?
From:
The Deer Rangers - hunter - KLMS
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11/9/2010
1:07:00 PM
I don't think that coyotes and dogs would get along very
well. also, the hybrid will be
have to be half domesticated dog and half wild wolf. the
dogs would be used to the
humans and the coyotes would be used to the wild. You
say that the dogs will have an urge
to kill, but what if something and there are more dog
genes in the hybrid. this would
mean that all it would do is eat and sleep. This does
not work out well from our opinion.
From:
SPH - farmer - KLMS
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11/9/2010
8:42:00 AM
How would a Llama protect a sheep or any livestock?
From:
The Sportsman's Heaven Wildlife and Game Agency - Other
Stakeholder -
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11/19/2010
2:12:00 PM
What would you do if the coyotes got out of control?
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denmyer farm- North
Harford H.S
10/27/2010
We are the DENMYER FARM.
We are important because we provide food for common
people. Farmers spend a lot of
money trying to control the deer. On average 35
million dollars is spent on seed and
fertilizer.
We want to work with hunters to solve the problem.
The issue could be solved by crop damage permits,
regulated hunting, fencing, tree shelters
and wire cages and repellents. The reason of us
wanting these permits is because of the
deer destroying all of the crops. And if we had the
permits we could legally kill the deer so
the population wouldn�t eat all of the crops were
trying to sell to make a living or feed out
animals.
Farmers deserve a break! Get rid of deer!
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We are WonderBread - homeowner - PPHS
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10/28/2010
9:12:00 AM
If we get rid of the deer and put in coyotes they could
possibly do more damage to your
crops than what the deer had done.
Response
denmyer farm - farmer - NHHS
10/29/2010
10:54:00 AM
i disagree have you ever heard of coyotes tearing up
crops were there native
like out west?
From:
Car Crashers - Other Stakeholder - JMHS
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11/1/2010
6:49:00 AM
Your POV is fairly good but you could have put more
details of some things you
believed
From:
JJ Forest - forester - NHHS
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11/3/2010
6:33:00 AM
You came up with great ideas to solve deer over
population. makeing people get damage
permits and fencing and tree shelters wire cages and
repelents is great ways to solve the
deer issuse in the world its the best idea we've heard
of
From:
NH insurance - Insurance Company - NHHS
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11/3/2010
6:30:00 AM
People hunt and eat deer for a source of food. people
make money hunting and selling
deer meat. =]
From:
insurance staelers - Insurance Company - NHHS
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11/4/2010
10:01:00 AM
You could get crop insurance to keep your crops
protected. that way if deer do destroy
your crops you are still guranteed money or
reimbursement and you wouldnt have to
spend money on gaits, and fences.
From:
Deer Dudes and Dudetes - Other Stakeholder - KLMS
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11/8/2010
1:42:00 PM
Why would people get rid of deer when they get rid of
weeds for farmers? But they are
dead and don’t come back but if they eat the crops you
can just replant them with the
seeds from the fruits that you already harvested. And
no, farmers don’t need a break,
deer do! Deer are being hunted and have to fight for
their lives. But you only farm not
get shot by a person then eaten.
From:
Phat Farmers - farmer - TAHS
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11/8/2010
12:46:00 PM
This is true deer do destroy a lot of crops that we grow
and use to feed our livestock and
sell at the markets. In my area where I'm from we can
buy something called damage
stamps, and we can shoot deer that are on our property,
and kill as many as we want as
long as we have the stamps do to so. This really helps
the population around here also the
fences and all of those things work as well.
From:
The Happy Hunters - hunter - KLMS
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11/9/2010
2:01:00 PM
I like your POV but why would you need to involve
hunters when you could simply just
build a really high brick wall that went around your
farming property that the deer
couldn't get over?
From:
The Deer Rangers - hunter - KLMS
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11/9/2010
1:11:00 PM
The fences and repellents could permit less space for
the plants AND deer. this would
kill your crops and the deer would probably still get
through the fences. And, unless you
can come up with a deer repellent, you can't "repell"
the deer.
From:
SPH - farmer - KLMS
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11/9/2010
9:01:00 AM
You should have written more. It really doesn't explain
what you are talking about. Why
do you want all deer gone? You should only want the
overpopulated deer gone. It isn't
nice to kill deer. They are living organisms too! How
would you like if someone was
trying to kill you! I mean humans are overpopulated too!
From:
SPH - farmer - KLMS
Ask
11/9/2010
9:01:00 AM
You should have written more. It really doesn't explain
what you are talking about. Why
do you want all deer gone? You should only want the
overpopulated deer gone. It isn't
nice to kill deer. They are living organisms too! How
would you like if someone was
trying to kill you! I mean humans are overpopulated too!
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Freaky Funkly
Farmers- North Harford H.S
10/27/2010
The Freaky Funky Farmers are important because we
supply food for people. The over
population of deer is affecting us badly because the
deer are eating all of my crops before
they are ready and I can't sell them. Also with our
group not being able to sell our
products I'm making no money to support my family or
to keep my business running. Deer
should have a designated area ever couple miles with
a place for them to feed so my crops
aren't being affected by them eating it all. Or
allow hunter to guard farms so that way if
any deer enter the property the hunters can shoot
them and sense they are already
hunters it will work better for them because after
they kill the deer they can eat it. Also if
home owned put all of their yards up in fencing all
of the deer are going to come to the
farms because they can't eat off of peoples gardens.
The deer over population affects the
forests also because the deer are eating all of the
baby trees so the forests will no longer
grow because the deer are eating the plant
population before it can even begin. The life of
farming could soon come to an end if the deer
aren't taken under control they will eat all
of our crops and we will no longer be able to make a
living of the land us farmers live on.
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The Rubber Duckies - forester - JMHS
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11/5/2010
6:52:00 AM
Once the deer are out of the forest how will you protect
your crops from other animals
like the coyote. The coyote will most likely do more
damage than the deer.
From:
RAWR! - Other Stakeholder - H4H
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11/8/2010
1:14:00 PM
To Rubber Duckies, what kind of damage do you expect
coyotes to do to crops? They are
carnivores.
From:
Cow Spitters - farmer - JMHS
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11/9/2010
8:36:00 AM
You are just adressing the problem....How are you going
to stop the problem?
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H, N & L Farms- Paw
Paw H.S.
10/27/2010
1997 crop losses attributed to deer. Farmers
reported deer were responsible for 70% of
their wildlife caused crop losses. The majority of
responding farmers were very confident
in their abilities to distinguish deer losses from
losses cause by other species and
confidence appeared to increase with experience.
Deer densities and crop losses have exceeded the
tolerance of producers in most areas of
the state. 39% of farmers responding reported 1997
losses were intolerable to the point
of taking additional action to resolve the issue.
Between $5 and $10 million in crop losses
for 1997 were reported by farmers responding to this
survey. Effects of deer damage on
field abandonment and crop selection 25% of
responding farmers reported abandoning a
parcel of tillable ground because of excessive deer
damage. 36% of responding farmers
have ceased growing their preferred crops as a
result of excessive damage.
White-tailed deer may damage farm crops, gardens,
orchards, ornamental shrubs and
forest tree seedlings. In addition, damage usually
varies greatly among seasons of the
often between years. One of the first things that a
landowner must know in order to
control deer damage is how to accurately identify
the damage deer cause.
By far the most common way deer cause damage is by
eating some portion of a plant or
crop. Other less frequent forms of damage include
trampling of plants and damage to
trees and shrubs caused by antler rubbing.
White-tailed deer are enjoyable to watch,
photograph and hunt and they can cause crop
damage. Missouri farmers are tolerated of deer
activity and accept certain levels of
damage. However, when deer populations, droughts,
natural food storages or economic
conditions create hardship corrective action becomes
necessary. This situation has lead to a
population explosion in the wild and continuing
heavy financial losses for many woodland
owners.
Animals are also being brought from deer farms and
illegally released into the wild to
increase the numbers available for sportsman to
shoot. Deer, however, cause havoc among
young forestry plantations by browsing and stripping
bark from the trucks of young trees.
Natural regeneration can't occur where deer numbers
are high and the cost of fencing
them out is prohibitively expensive.
Where fencing does occur it pushed the population
into neighboring woodland and simply
passes on the problem. The same can occur where
clear felling takes place and the deer
then move on and the problem is passed to the
unfortunate owners of adjoining woodland.
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From:
MiBrain Hunters - hunter - PPHS
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10/28/2010
8:41:00 AM
yall are right deer are a problem wit farmers and there
crops..
From:
RAWR! - Other Stakeholder - H4H
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11/8/2010
1:25:00 PM
Do you have any recent information about crop damage due
to deer overpopulation?
Also, where did you come across information about deer
being illegally released for
sport hunters?
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John Deer Farmers-
North Harford H.S
10/27/2010
Our groups name is John Deer Farmers. Our group is
important because we provide food
for America. Without farmers American people would
starve. The issue of deer
overpopulation affects our group because the deer
eat a lot of our crops. The deer costs
us thousands of dollars each year just in crops.
When the deer shed their ateliers they can
sometimes damage equipment badly when harvesting the
crops. We discussed as a group to
start killing the deer as a way to solve the
overpopulation problem with the deer. If we
don’t try and solve the problem soon they will take
over farms and destroy all crops
eventually nationwide.
We suggest that more females should be
harvested/year. Farmers have already been
using crop damage permits for a while now. By doing
this it just means that farmers can kill
deer on their property out of deer season. Deer is
so overpopulated that it is ridiculous.
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From:
dream catchers - Insurance Company - NHHS
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10/29/2010
12:34:00 PM
i agree dude
From:
The Deer Philosophers - Other Stakeholder - KLMS
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11/8/2010
1:33:00 PM
How would you apply what you have learned to develop a
well balanced ecosystem and
affordable population of the various types of deer
species?
From:
BA Foresters - forester - TAHS
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11/8/2010
1:14:00 PM
We agree that farmers are extremely important and that
deer cause a large amount of
damage. However, only so many does can be hunted. Can
you provide some more ways on
how you plan to decrease the deer population?Thank You.
From:
The Tree Enforcers - forest - KLMS
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11/9/2010
1:24:00 PM
America won't starve beacuse we have other sources of
food, and killing deer isn't the
only way do solve the deer population
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gibles- North Harford H.S
10/28/2010
We are the Stakeholder group Gibles. We are a group
of farmers who have so really good
ideas about the overcrowding of deer in Maryland.
The deer are eating our crops are
destroying our lifestyle. Primary damages have
occurred to orchards, alfalfa, and corn.
However, specialty crops such as berries, grapes,
pumpkins, etc. are also severely damaged It’s
gotten so bad that I can’t support my family
anymore. :( Its like a zombie apocalypse. When
we hit a deer with our 2010 John Deere combines its
gets blood all over the corn and we can’t
sell that. Also it puts damages on our machinery.
Surveys during the 1980s indicated deer
damage costs to West Virginia's agriculture was
about $35 million annually :( :( The deer have
to be stopped. We would like to solve this epidemic
by keeping deer season all year round. And
make it a public job to kill deer and sell the
meat. If we can control the deer, our forest will
grow new layers of plant life. Our farms will
produce more crops, Giving the local community
more food for their families. :) :) If this works
every group of stakeholders will be happy.
Except the hippies, for the hippies we could shoot
the deer with tranquilizers and the relocate
them. Move the problem somewhere else!
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T.POWER!- North Harford H.S
10/28/2010
We believe that the deer population is way too
high and needs to be cut down somehow. As
farmers the overpopulation of deer is destroying our
crops and costing us a lot of money that
we do not have.If the deer keep eating all of our
crops then we wont have as much feed to keep
our livestock through the winter and we will have
to spend money on more feed. we belive that
the hunting seasons should be extended to an all
year season until the deer population is cut
down to what it should be. Farmers are important
because they supply food for people and
animals.
It has been estimated that in the United States
deer damaged a total of $100 million of
agricultural crops, $750 million of forest
regeneration, and $1 billion in deer vehicle
accidents. - http://www.wvdnr.gov/Hunting/IntAppDeerCon.shtm
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The Fed Up Forest - forest - NHHS
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10/29/2010
12:34:00 PM
We agree with this solution. If the hunting season is
extended to all year then the deer
population will be cut down significantly. This will
help solve the deer overpopulation
issue and help farmers, homeowners and many others.
Response
T.POWER! - farmer - NHHS
11/3/2010
6:34:00 AM
We agree with this comment but there should be
restrictions on what kind of
deer you can hunt during certian times of the year. For
example during parts of
the spring and summer you may not hunt doe's. And threw
most of the year you
may only hunt with a bow to cut down what you catch
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The Deer Slayers - hunter - LHS-C
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10/29/2010
8:07:00 AM
We dont think that an all year round hunting season
would be smart. If we shoot deer in
the summer time, you are killing the baby deer inside of
the mature does. Then ten years
from now we wont have any deer left. We are trying to
control the deer population, not
demolish it.
From:
gibles - farmer - NHHS
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11/3/2010
10:11:00 AM
I dont agree with the deer slayers becuase if the deer
population gets low then we wil
just stop hunting for a little. and when it goes back
to being overp populated we will
start hunting again. by the way your deer slayers why
do you care??
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RAWR! - Other Stakeholder - H4H
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11/8/2010
1:45:00 PM
For once I have to agree with the deer slayers, a year
round hunting season won't help at
all. Constantly hunting down most of the deer in the
area and then allowing them to
overpopulate is to much of a strain on the ecosystem,
the best thing to do is gradually
bring the population down to healthy levels and then
maintain it so it stays that way.
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The Keebler Elves-
North Harford H.S
10/28/2010
We are the Keebler Elves,farmers that are plagued
with the overpopulation of deer. The deer
eat our crops that we need to sell in order to make
a profit so that we can survive. The deer
also are carriers of various diseases including
limes disease and rocky mountain spotted fever.
They forage the woods and kill off all the
vegetation that nourishes the land we farm on. Our
group is extremely important because we plant
harvest and produce the food and goods needed
for the human race to survive and prosper. We think
that the bag limit on deer should be raised
so that hunters could keep the deer population under
control.Other stockholders may be able to
contribute to our cause, especially hunters. We feel
that this is a highly important subject,
thank youfor taking the time to be enlightened about
our point of view.
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T.POWER! - farmer - NHHS
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11/3/2010
6:27:00 AM
We agree with the POV because farmers are one of the
more important stake holders.
They provide most of the food you'll see in the grocery
stores, but the more the deer
destroy the less we the farmers can sell.
From:
This was posted by someone at North Harford (they
accidently used
BA Foresters name)
Ask
11/5/2010
11:12:00 AM
if you raise the bag limit of deer kills then you might
get rid of the whole deer
population all together.
From:
gibles - farmer - NHHS
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11/5/2010
11:03:00 AM
the farmers are the most important stackholder group...
without farmes then there
would be no food. and if the deer keep destroying our
crops then there will be no
food to eat. this is why we need to keep the deer
populatio undercontrol by insewing
open season
From:
RAWR! - Other Stakeholder - H4H
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11/8/2010
5:01:00 PM
Question for gibles, what is "insewing"?
From:
RAWR! - Other Stakeholder - H4H
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11/8/2010
1:53:00 PM
I agree with BA foresters on this raising the bag limit
will only affect the deer
population negatively.
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BA Foresters - forester - TAHS
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11/10/2010
1:24:00 PM
We are becoming rather angry because this is the second
time we have found a
comment that we did not post, that is posted under our
name. We do agree that deer
overpopulation has a drastic effect on the farmers. I
also strongly agree with that
fact that you, the farmers, are EXTREMELY important to
us because without you,
there would be a significantly less amount of food.
However, we also strongly
disagree that raising the bag limit is a good idea(like
whoever rudely posted under
our name. Although, we highly doubt that this would
completely wipe out the deer
population). Raising the bag limit could, quite
possibly, introduce other problems even
though it is solving one. I would like to see some
numbers and facts. For example,
how much do farmers lose due to deer overpopulation? I
would also like to see some
focus on some different ways to decrease the deer
population, other than raising the
bag limit. Thank you.
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Phat Farmers- Turner
Ashby H.S.
11/4/2010
As a farmer, there is not a lot I can control
about the everyday health of my farm. Certain
irrepressible factors have a chance to impact the
farm constantly like: the occasional yet
feared drought, or disastrous windstorms that tear
down an entire cornfield. Try as I might, I
cannot control these issues. Losing crops to deer
overpopulation is something I can control.
The effect deer have on a farm is not seen
only with crops. Deer can spread diseases to
livestock, carry harmful ticks, and tear down
fences. It may be safely stated that a solution to
this deer pandemic is necessary.
Countless solutions have been presented
involving ways to keep deer off of farms. Loud
noise machines, fenced of crop fields, and deer
repellents are all ways to push deer off certain
properties, but many have neglected the fact that
they would be pushed right onto someone
else’s farm. The cost of implementing these
practices would be too steep for the already ailing
farming community, which in turn makes these
temporary actions rather impractical.
The re-introduction of a natural predator into
the deer habitat has been another solution
presented. These predators would mainly come in the
form of coyotes. As a farmer, I believe
this would be a feasible option if there were a
monetary reimbursement for the farmer in the
case of livestock loss because losses would occur.
Again this solution would not be well
accepted in the farming community and would fail to
be successful.
Aside from the coyote proposition, all of these
solutions have not attacked the main problem:
overpopulation. I believe it is necessary to
diminish the deer population by taking hunting
actions. In Indiana it has been proposed to offer
farmers a class that would teach them how to
properly kill and harvest a deer as to lower the
deer population in that area. Also, making more
doe tags for hunters would drastically lower the
deer population in the matter of one year.
Some may argue that these hunting changes would
cause more deer-related fatalities, but I
believe less deer in an area would cause less
automobile accidents, therefore saving lives.
These last solutions attack the deer
overpopulation predicament at the core by trying to
maintain the populations of deer, not just to expel
them to become another person’s problem.
Maintaining deer populations effectively and
efficiently will take the cooperation of many
groups of people, but would reap rewards that would
allow future generations to prosper.
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REI Forest - forest - JMHS
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11/5/2010
7:03:00 AM
Re-entering the deer's natural predator, the coyote,
will help control the deer population.
And if the coyote population gets out of hand, you can
always hunt them. It'll be a never
ending fight to control wildlife population, but we can
try, and I believe this will work.
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RAWR! - Other Stakeholder - H4H
Ask
11/8/2010
2:08:00 PM
I think offering classes to farmers about protecting
their crops is one of the best
unnatural solutions I have seen yet, however I have to
agree with REI Forest,
reintroducing coyote to the forest is a simple natural
effective solution, I would like to
take it one step further though, I think we should
relocate the coyotes farmers are
having problems with, and the ones that are showing up
in urban and suburban areas into
the highest concentrations of the deer population. On a
side note I think you are
overreacting quite a bit, this is not a "pandemic" as
you said in your POV, please try to
remember that this is contained to the Chesapeake bay
watershed area and don't go
freaking people out by calling it a pandemic.
From:
Deer Dudes and Dudetes - Other Stakeholder - KLMS
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11/9/2010
2:03:00 PM
On the POV for the "denmyer farm " you agreed with me
but why are you aloud to shoot
deer in your area this is what you said..."In my area
where I'm from we can buy
something called damage stamps, and we can shoot deer
that are on our property, and
kill as many as we want as long as we have the stamps do
to so." And what are stamps?
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SPH- Kemps Landing Magnet S. 6th
grade
11/5/2010
We the farmers are important because we grow
crops which we sell to factories and shop
keepers. Since the deer species is overpopulated,
they threaten our crops because they come to
eat them. When they eat our crops, we can’t send
them to store owners who can go out of
business. Also people wouldn’t be able to eat
because there are no crops. Farmers won’t be able
to be paid, so we’ll go out of business. So not only
are farmers affected, but shop keepers and
their customers. So we are important because we
provide food. If we can’t provide food to
factories and stores, than we can’t provide food to
people. Though deer are good organisms,
they threaten humanity. It may take a long time but
it can happen.
The deer problem (overpopulation) is affecting
everyone! The deer overpopulation is
causing humans to put fences around their garden.
But, they are also blocking other wildlife
and causing the other wildlife to die. Such as
rabbits, birds, squirrels, reptiles, and other
wildlife. This is a major problem! Some other things
that are having impact on people is that the
deer are so fast. They can run 40 mph, swim 13 mph,
and jump 9 feet high! Buck shed their
antlers in the winter. Which causes problems for
people because peoplewill have to go in their
yard a clean up all of the ntlers that they shed.
The female deer will eat the grass in human’s
backyard which also causes problems for people who
like to have their grass nice and not with
deer bite marks in it. The only reason that we can’t
move them away from here is because this
is their habitat. This is all human impact!
The deer populations are increasing and are
eating all of our crops and we Are not happy
about it one bit. People would like to put deer
poison on our land but if they put in the wrong
spots the poison can kill our crops. Also if they le
unnatural predators to the area. They could
come back and eat our crops so that would fix the
deer problem then come up with another
problem. Agencies are destroying the land/ limiting
deer’s food to help manage the population,
but by destroying it makes better spots for farming
which would better for us so we can grow
more crops. Then if deer started to eat our crops
again we would have more left. Hunters say
we should put up tall fences but the tall ones are
usually are the opaque wood ones and the
shadow could limit the light on our plants making
them not to grow as well.
Deer overpopulation is a big problem is US. We
need to fix this by managing the population.
The people that are affected by this epidemic are
mainly farmers and anyone. Last year 4
deaths were recorded by dear related incidents and
over 29,000 people were injured. The deer
eat crops. In the last 10 years the deer ate over
10,000,000 dollars worth of crops. That is
over 1,000,000 dollars a year. The animal rights
activist and game biologist refuse to lift their
current hunting regulations even in these
conditions. In Iowa the current deer population is
475,000. At the current rate the deer population
will sky rocket. They will eat all the food and
use a lot of natural resources which will be bad for
the ecosystem. This will not be solved
naturally because there are not enough predators to
eat their prey. So please change your laws
for the people.
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The Cultivators- Kemps
Landing Magnet S. 6th grade
11/8/2010
As head of the agricultural business; the
white-tailed deer species effects us farmers by
consuming our crops which we sell to make profits,
and it affects our income and our
livelihood. Due to human impact of when the
settlers came to this world, deer’s natural
predators have decreased rapidly. As humans soon
settled in the area, they started to cause
deforestation destroying the white-tailed deer’s
habitat. The white-tailed deer population has
increased but the deer’s limiting factors, such as
food, water, and shelter, have decreased.
There is competition with living space, and
therefore have been forced on deer new
adaptations, and they have moved into human
communities. However, in our communities is
where farmers grow their crops.
Being farmer’s means that we produce food that
people around the country rely on. But due
to the huge population size of the white-tailed
deer; the wildlife areas that remain are running
out of limiting factors causing the deer population
density to go over their natural boundaries.
Because of this over reproduction; deer are eating
our crops. 70% of crops that were lost in
one year were caused by white-tailed deer. From
this fact, we farmers have had to have
tolerance with the loss. We have spent 67,855 hours
and $620,073 trying to make up for the
lost crops. The money we’ve spent has been wasted
and is making a big impact on us financially.
Some are even buying supplies to drive off, hurt,
scare, and even kill the deer. Some of these
materials are repellents, pesticides, and fences.
Only 20% of farmers have not allowed hunters
come onto their land to kill the deer. When it is
this serious where we’re willing to kill deer,
there needs to be a solution to the problem.
As a result of this problem, we have come up
with a potential solution. Instead of trying to
use repellents and or allowing hunters on our land,
we have concluded to try and relocate the
deer to a wildlife reserve. By doing this; not only
will we be preventing more deathes of the
deer, it will also give a healthier environment to
the deer and we will make more profits. By
doing this there are benefits for both us and the
white-tailed deer with fewer disadvantages,
unlike the other possible answers.
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The
Farmers From Across The Field- Kemps Landing
Magnet S. 6th grade
11/8/2010
Farm to Live, Live to Farm- Slogan
We farmers are particularly great to the
survival of humanity in contributing to many things
to the survival to the people. We plant crops,
raise livestock, and give food to the markets if
needed. We help the world by providing it with
fruits and vegetables from the farms, but we
can’t if the deer keep trampling our crops, causing
for is to pay millions of dollars to buy more
seeds to make crops, and the deer will come back,
eating and trampling over our plants again. If
we can’t make enough crops, we can’t supply that
much to the market, causing for the people to
eat less fruits, vegetables, or wheat. If the deer
population size increases, so many deer can
come to the farms and eating more crops, we can
possibly not exist, maybe even forever. We
are going to try and do some type of protection of
our crops, trying not to hurt the deer so the
animal rights activists don’t get mad at us and to
let them get mad at the hunters by hunting the
deer and diminishing the deer population. We will
also be helping the environmentalists by not
harming the plants.
We have decided to use sprinklers and some
perfumes along with flowers such as marigolds,
astilbe, morning glory, buttercup, foxglove, dahlia,
Four O’clock, flowering tobacco, larkspur,
poppy, snapdragon, strawflower and vinca. They also
dislike trees like birch, crape myrtle,
maple, and spruce. These are some of the things that
deer like and should be avoided: azaleas,
rhododendrons, daylilies, hostas, roses, Columbine,
geranium, impatiens, pansies, redbud, tulips,
beans, potatoes and tomatoes. You can also put up
fences and make loud noises to drive them
off. We wish not to kill the deer just to drive them
away from our crops. We just don’t want to
pay that much money just to buy more crops. That’s
the only problem with the deer. Farmers are
just a key component in causes of how the survives
today, but if something doesn’t change soon
about the deer problem, the farmers won’t exist,
probably forever. Though, people can grow
their own crops, but still it won’t be enough. It
would become a huge decrease on farms.
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From:
Wildlife Preservers - Other Stakeholder - KLMS
Ask
11/9/2010
1:48:00 PM
How do you prevent people to slow down in cars if ,say,
they are on the highway and you
have a certain speed limit to avoid trafic?
Respond:
The Farmers From
Across The Field - farmer - KLMS
11/24/2010
And where did we put the
bit about people to slow down in their cars?
From:
The Deer Stalkers - Other Stakeholder - KLMS
Ask
11/9/2010
1:10:00 PM
Scents are not the only thing we could do to lure away
the deer, this might help you for a
while, but not forever. The perfumes might be toxic and
harm the deer. It might rain,
and the scents will go away. The flowers will eventually
die off in Winter and Fall. Is
scents the only thing that is not violent and not use
crops as bait? Also the supply of
water will die down. Then what will happen? You can use
a tall gate to keep them out.
From:
The Deer Rangers - hunter - KLMS
Ask
11/9/2010
1:00:00 PM
Wouldn't putting up fences limit the space you can grow
crops? Deer can jump really
high. How high would the fences be? If the fences are
too high wouldn't that limit the
light that goes to the crops? how much fencing would be
needed? Then how much will the
fencing cost? Would the perfume attract different
animals that eat vegatation? would
the perfume cost a whole lot more money?
Respond:
The Farmers From
Across The Field - farmer - KLMS
11/24/2010
How high can deer jump? we would make the
fences higher than they can jump. they would
be open fences so that light could still
come in. The fences would stop ofther
animals form coming in. We would not have to
use just perfume. Deer eating our crops
would mean we would have to buy more and
more crops every time they ate ours. Buying
plants that the deer would not eat would
drive them off. Dont hunters and farmers
both want to work together on the deer
problem, if not please clarify.
From:
The Deer Rangers - hunter - KLMS
Ask
11/9/2010
1:00:00 PM
Don't you think that some of the perfumes may kill the
plants?Also, don't you think that
if you water the plants all day and all night, the
plants will die. The perfumes could
attract other animals and that could cause even more of
a problem.
From:
The Deer Rangers - hunter - KLMS
Ask
11/9/2010
12:55:00 PM
Wouldnt planting all the plants that deer dont like in
the fields cost more money and take
up more space than just letting the deer eat some crops?
If not please clarify.
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Eagleye- Kemps Landing Magnet
S. 6th grade
11/9/2010
POV: Deer eat,
1. At least ten percent of our summer crops.
2. Eat all trees planted in the riparian zone.
3. In winter eat decorative plants around buildings.
POV: Solutions to deer problem.
1. Extend deer hunting season.
2. Farmer has permission to kill any deer on
property at any time.
3. Counties should set traps, and captured deer
should be slaughtered for food.
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The Great Growers-
Kemps Landing Magnet S. 6th grade
11/9/2010
Farmers are people who grow edible plants that
feed the community they are grown in.
Farmers are an important role in the deer population
management cycle. This never ending
cycle starts with the deer going into the farmer’s
fields and eating their crops. The crops are
then digested and made into waste that lands in the
farmer’s fields and that fertilizes their
crops. The crops then grow into their full form
that the deer eats and the cycle continues.
According to this cycle the farmers play a key role
in feeding and reproduction of deer. Also,
the deer are helping us farmers in providing our
crops with proper fertilization.
Increasing deer population sizes can sometimes
threaten farming businesses. Examples of
deer population problems that effect farmers are
that since farmers only grow a limited
amount of crops at a time, when deer browse; they
can eat some, most, or all of our crops and
cause us to receive less profit when we spent more
money to buy genetically altered seeds or
seeds of new species of plants. Also, when deer
browse, they’re able to reduce plants’ health
and make them either less or not marketable. In
addition, white-tailed deer are also capable of
helping spread plant disease. We farmers would be
better off if deer population was degraded
and managed.
Deer could personally affect our livelihoods
because deer feed on our crops and decrease
the profits we earn from selling crops. I feel
sorry for the farmers in Pennsylvania because
62% of the damage done to their crops is from deer.
Deer mostly damage corn and small
grains. The annual damage for the eating of crops
by deer is around 16 to 30 million dollars.
Some of us farmers use repellents to ward off deer
out of gardens, orchards and other farm
crops. But using the repellents has been time
consuming and labor intensive. Deer fences work
and use 12 foot high wooden fence poles and they
use 2 widths of 4 foot woven wire. Keeping
the deer off of our property is a time consuming
process the 50& of the time helps. The deer
are predators to our crops and our crops are the
prey, unable to protect themselves.
My group would probably prefer that the deer
population size would go down because the
deer eat our crops and products. Also if the deer
population went down we would have more
money because the hunters would have to buy meat
from farmers. They wouldn’t hunt anymore
because the deer population would’ve gone done. If
the deer population went up, farmers could
disappear. Instead of buying cow or horse to eat
they could easily and at a smaller price get
free meat by hunting. By the community not buying
our products, we wouldn’t have enough
money to buy food for our self. Therefore, my group
and all farmers don’t want the deer
population to go any higher.
We farmers believe that the deer population is
out of control. We encourage the population
to go down for the sake of our crops. The deer
population size is a danger to the growth of
our crops and the feeding of our community. Deer
need to be relocated out of our community
and need to adapt to an ecosystem that does not
involve them eating our crop. We believe in
the species’ survival, but they need to survive
somewhere away from our farms.
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