*Moderator
Comment.
Several
groups are suggesting that there really isn't a problem with
deer overpopulation, that there are not enough deer for the
hunters. It is true that there are fewer deer in some
areas than past years - but that doesn't mean there are not
"enough" deer. It is all a matter of perspective: enough
for what? Hunters became used to seeing lots of deer, and
it was easy to hunt deer when they were everywhere. One of
the challenges for developing management programs that reduce
the deer herd to levels that are good for the forest ecosystem
and agriculture is that hunters get upset when it starts to work
and they see fewer deer and have a chance to shoot fewer deer -
and begin to complain loudly to the agencies to change their
policies. Part of your challenge here is to suggest ways
to manage that issue. Remember, this is not just
about the hunting.
Team Car Ramrod North
Harford H.S
PETA
10/29/2008
10:11:00 AM
PETA POVWe are gathered here today to discuss how to
deal with the large deer
population. I am a representative of the animal
rights group People for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals or PETA and we influence a
large number of people through
demonstrations and our website therefore our
thoughts and suggestions should be
respected. We do not believe that using
snipers/hunters to thin out the deer population is
a humane way to solve to the overpopulation problem.
Though we do not agree in that
particular solution we do believe that something
must be done to thin the deer population as
the deer are becoming more and more detrimental to
their environment. If the
sniping/hunting solution is kept, our organization
will have no choice but to take action in
order to prevent the unbelievably inhumane slaughter
of the deer population. In order to
prevent such an occurrence I propose that large
amounts of the deer are sterilized. Doing
this will prevent many deer from reproducing
therefore lowering the population of deer in
the future. Though the effects of this solution may
not be immediate, in the future they
will prove to be beneficial.The cost of sterilizing
deer comes out to about one thousand
dollars a (deer
http://urbandeer.info/kirkpatrickreply.html. )
This may seem like a huge cost
to pay in comparison to the amount it would cost to
pay professional snipers but in the long
run it will pay off. Shooting deer will only be a
short term solution. The population will be
lowered until the deer reproduce again, then we will
be back to stage one. Sterilizing deer
will keep the population in check for years to come
without the cruel and inhumane
bloodshed.
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Thoughtful Questions
From:
Deer Slayers - hunter - HHS
Ask
10/30/2008
10:38:00 AM
why would you want to get rid of the deer population
when future generations will
want to hunt and you have reduced the population too
low. ?? If you like to see the
deer then we'll take pictures of them for you
(before we SlAUGHTER them!)
Response
Team Car Ramrod - Other Stakeholder - NHHS
11/5/2008
12:21:00 PM
You have no idea what your talking about. If the
population is way too high
and hunting is not helping then we have to take some
sort of action. By
sterilizing a good amount of deer we will help limit
the future population.
Shooting the deer will only be a short term solution
as they will still
repopulate the area in a few years. And if you
slaughter them deer, its
bad news.
From:
Artist - Other Stakeholder - HHS
Ask
10/31/2008
9:13:00 AM
I feel this is a useful idea. But how would you
prevent the roaming overpopulation
from being runover?
From
The Outlaws - Other Stakeholder - PHS
Ask
11/5/2008
8:17:00 AM
If
you could see the things that the deer population
brings to our state, then
you
would realize how much money that their tax revenue
gives to us. Hunting
deer
isn't humane. What if there wasn't any food left on
the planet and all
there
was left was deer. Would you kill them or would you
starve?!!!
From:
Buck Masters - hunter - BGHS
Ask
11/6/2008
7:47:00 AM
why try to get rid of the hunting? cars will kill
the deer if hunters don't.
From:
Girl With Big Guns - hunter – BGHS
Ask
11/6/2008
8:15:00 AM
If hunters slaughter deer like you think they do
then wouldn’t under population be an
issue instead of over population? And who do you
expect to pay the expense of
sterilizing these deer?
From:
Revenge of the Flora - forest - PHS
Statement
11/12/2008
8:24:00 AM
You have stated that hunting is inhumane. Please
explain to us how chronic wasting
disease or an increase in deer related car accidents
is humane.
From:
The Truffula Farmers & Barbaloot Hunters - farmer -
Statement
11/13/2008
7:17:00 AM
The cost of a thousand dollars per deers is a
lot more than you may think,
especially with the economy the way it is, and if
you were to sterilize deer, you would
either destroy the population or have so little
effect that it will make do difference.
Hunting, properly called harvesting deer is not
inhumane, it is quick and virtually
painless for the deer. These deer are not killed for
sport, they are not being
slaughter for fun as many seem to think, these deer
a harvested for food, as has
been done for hundreds of years. Humans are natural
predators to deer, they have
always been. The American Indians hunted deer for
food and were able to keep the
population from becoming out of control. Sterilizing
the deer is much more painful
for the deer and raises many questions about how the
deer will be caught and the
effects of sterilization on the deer.
From:
VDGIF - Other Stakeholder - MVGS
Ask
11/13/2008
7:18:00 AM
Have you researched precisely how the method of
sterilization works? It is better
known as "surgical" sterilization and involves
permanent loss of fertility. It can cost
up to nearly $20,000 to capture the deer and more
money to actually sterilize them.
This causes stress upon the deer, which seems more
inhumane than killing them in an
instant. You should take a look at the picture to
the following link:
www.cals.wisc.edu/media/news/04_02/deer_birth_control.html.
This does not seem
like an idea that PETA would support.
From:
G.A.S. - Governor's and Science - Other Stakeholder
-
Ask
11/13/2008
9:11:00 AM
Your idea has merit and is humane, but the
question is: How do you plan to pay for
the sterilization of the deer? Contraceptive
treatments have to be reapplied for 3-5
seasons before the effect is permanent.
Contraceptives will work in small,
concentrated areas, but how do you propose to fix
the overall deer population
problem? Also, we believe that hunting is more
humane than the incredibly
stressful sterilization process. You may want to
look into the sterilization process
because it is anything but humane. Hunting on the
other hand, is a relatively quick,
painless death that is infinitely better than a
short life riddled with starvation and
disease.
From:
Deer Assassins - hunter - BGHS
Statement
11/19/2008
8:43:00 AM
FYI...hunters are not snipers.
How do you think the deer are going to be controlled
other than hunting?
From:
Buck Masters - hunter - BGHS
Ask
11/21/2008
8:00:00 AM
i do not agree with your paper! why not bring in
snipers? the deer that they kill can
be useful, the meat can be given to poor families
that cannot afford food. snipers do
not slaughter deer!
From:
Girl With Big Guns - hunter – BGHS
Ask
11/25/2008
8:49:00 AM
Your paper doesn’t seem to be at all politicallt
correct. You have no facts to support
that hunters slaughter deer. Why won’t snipers be
beneficial? The meat won’t be
wasted when it’s helping hungry families.
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herb lovers Hampshire H.S.
harvesters
10/29/2008
12:30:00 PM
Our point of view of being a harvester is that we
dont want the deer eating all our plants
we harvest. Therefore we need to have all our plants
fenced in from the deer. We dont
want to kill all the deer maybe just some since
hunting season is coming up.
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From:
Geico - Insurance Company - NHHS
Ask
11/5/2008
12:20:00 PM
Why don't you fence off your property instead of
your vegetation land. This is
because the fence might prevent further growing of
the plants due to restricted
area.
From:
The Truffula Farmers & Barbaloot Hunters - farmer -
Statement
11/13/2008
7:32:00 AM
This is in response to Geico. Fencing off the
property, may seem like a good idea,
however, the cost of fencing in a whole farm is
really high. I found some
information that says that the cost of the fence and
the installation for an acre of
land is over two thousand dollars. It is not
feasible for farmers with hundreds of
acres to fence all of their land. The fence will
also need maintenance.
From:
Buck Masters - hunter - BGHS
Ask
11/21/2008
8:03:00 AM
you need a little more information. and how else
could you keep deer out?
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Artist Hampshire H.S.
A view from an artist
10/30/2008
9:27:00 AM
You may not think that the deer population may
have anything to do with artists, but in
reality it does. We artists make a living off of
what we create. Be it sculptures, paintings,
photographs, or sketches. We live for idea's and
nature to show us what to create. When it
comes to the deer population, we wish to sit in a
densely populated forest and wait to
encounter a glorious buck. Or maybe a doe with her
fawns. Without this occuring, we lose
ideas and money.
We, the artists, do not criticize hunters. They
do their job and earn themselves food.
They also help farmers out in this occupation.
Homeowners can easily have their own
opinion on this situation. They may enjoy the walkby
of a deer or may hate them for eating
their plants.
I have an idea for the deer population that may
suit many people. I enjoy seeing deer,
but not on the side of the road. I do feel the
population of deer is too large. In 2006,
there were 200 human casualties caused by deer.
Altough I enjoy deer in the woods, I feel
it is better to reduce the deer population in order
to prevent casualties of deer and
humans.
The deer population in the eastern panhandle
could easily be reduced if deer were
moved to another state that has low deer population.
This allows deer and people to be
safe and live harmoniously. Deer can still roam in
my woods and visit homeowners. Hunters
can also still have prey to hunt. It's much better
when we are all happy.
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From:
Geico - Insurance Company - NHHS
Ask
11/5/2008
12:22:00 PM
Where did you get your casualties from web site how
do you know that there are
that many casualties and are you even sure they are
all from the deer??
Response
Artist - Other Stakeholder - HHS
11/6/2008
9:20:00 AM
I easily got this valid information from the
backround reading of this
website. I, myself, haven't been in a deer-car
collision. One of my family
members have been in a deer-car collision.
Fortunantly, it wasn't deadly. This
month, in total, I have seen four deer on the side
of the road. It truely
upseting.
From:
Deer Assassins - hunter - BGHS
Statement
11/19/2008
8:50:00 AM
Deer are on the side of the road because people need
to hunt more so they won't be
hit by vehicles.
Response
Artist - Other Stakeholder - HHS
11/20/2008
9:14:00 AM
I can see what you mean, but some areas are in great
need for deer. We
need to balance out every deer population. Not just
this one. An
overpopulation and shortage of deer can cause lots
of damage to forest. Is
hunting your only solution?
From:
Farmers of Mt. Vista - farmer - MVGS
Statement
11/23/2008
11:51:00 AM
Have you ever tried to move deer from one place to
another? They are not easy
move and generally find their way back because there
is a reliable source of food.
Art comes in all forms, so why are deer so special?
Deer are notoriously elusive
when they want to be. Just ask the hunters who spend
days waiting for deer in tree
stands and come home empty handed. Climate and
geography also are key in the
natural distribution of the deer populations. They
gather in certain areas because of
safety and food availabilities. "It's much better
when we are all happy." you say?
Of course it is better when everyone is happy, that
cannot occur of course because
there will always a be a differing viewpoint. If
your only solution to stopping the
overpopulation of deer is to move them from a place
with a high concentration to a
lower concentration we wonder how you plan on
achieving that goal? Also, if in fact
the moving of deer is plausible, what are the costs
that go along with that?
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land owners Hampshire H.S.
landscape
10/31/2008
9:30:00 AM
Deer in landscape its a beautiful sight. But only
one problem deer like to eat leaces stems
and buds of many plants. In spring and summer
nonwoody plants are there favorite. Late
summer and fall they like fruit and nuts especilally
acorns they are all important. Deer
dameage by deer is not difficult to idertify often
leace a jagged or torn sorface on stems.
Deer dont like there trees ash, beach, birch,
juniper, ginkgo, hemlock ect. Shrubs barberry,
bot wood, redwis dog wood. You can use bars of soap
up but you migh need a lot of soap.
Thats what you need to do to keep out the deer.
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From:
Geico - Insurance Company - NHHS
Ask
11/5/2008
12:24:00 PM
why would you use bars of soap that would risk the
possibility of hurting and
poisoning another animal like your neighbors pet.
That would result in a lawsuit which
you don't want.
From:
Deer Assassins - hunter - BGHS
Ask
11/19/2008
8:51:00 AM
How would a bar of soap help???
From:
Artist - Other Stakeholder - HHS
Ask
11/19/2008
9:36:00 AM
Couldn't you propose a more humane way of removing
deer?
From:
Buck Masters - hunter - BGHS
Ask
11/21/2008
8:08:00 AM
i agree that the deer are beautiful on the land. and
is there more you can do to keep
the deer out?
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VDGIF Mountain Vista Governors
School
Government
11/3/2008
2:06:00 PM
Solutions for
Overpopulation of Deer
The Virginia Department
of Game and Inland Fishery has the mission to manage
Virginia’s wildlife and inland fisheries in order to
maintain optimum populations of all species to serve
the Commonwealth. As a state-sponsored department,
its members could potentially play a major role in
helping to naturally control deer populations. There
are several solutions that could easily be funded by
the VDGIF in addition to the measures which are
currently being executed. These include implementing
quota hunts and supporting non-profit hunting
organizations, such as Hunting for the Hungry.
The hunting season
generally extends between the months of November and
January. Currently the regulations stand at six
deer per season, of which only three can be without
antlers. However, a bonus deer permit allows for
exceptions to the amount of deer that can be hunted
by a particular individual. Rhode Island’s
Department of Environmental Management is heading in
the right direction in reestablishing equilibrium
within deer populations; it has redirected its focus
to hunt more female deer and allow more private
landowners to hunt on their own property. Likewise,
the VDGIF should work to implement regulations that
work toward extending the hunting season as well as
the number of deer allowed to be killed.
Hunting is one of the
greatest natural ways to control deer populations.
Not only does it advocate for the natural
preservation of an established ecosystem, but it
also avoids disrupting prey verses predator
relationships. Many forest deer currently have no
natural predators due to human activity such as
urbanization and deforestation. Therefore, it has
become man’s duty to advocate this unbalanced
relationship by assuming the role of a natural
predator. Rather than deer dying a slow and painful
death due to starvation or killing someone in a car
crash, they are instantly taken within seconds. For
those that find hunting inhumane, the VDGIF was
created to restore a natural balance and implement
sportsmanship to this common American pastime.
Hunting also serves to
benefit the economy. In fact, much of the money
collected from hunting licenses is used in the
conservation of land. Since 1934, $647 million has
gone towards the conservation of over 5 million
acres of habitat. In addition, hunters have
contributed to over $1.7 billion in federal income
taxes, which is over half of the federal commerce
budget. Hunting serves to provide 700,000 jobs. It
is not only a valuable economic resource, but a
realistic way to preserve nature; for who better to
fight for nature than the people spending all of
their free time amidst its wonders.
One solution for reducing
deer populations, aside from redeveloping the
current hunting standards, is having quota hunts.
Fairfax County has held several managed hunts, which
are sponsored by the county and specifically
selected for their deer populations. These quota
hunts would be implemented by VDGIF for selected
areas noted with too many deer. Hunters submit
applications and only a limited amount of hunters
are chosen to participate. VDGIF should focus on
implementing more of these quota hunts to aid in
solving the problem of deer overpopulation.
The VDGIF has also been
known to support such organizations as Hunters for
the Hungry. This is a non-profit organization that
helps to reduce the deer population and serve the
community. The deer are accepted by professional
meat cutters and are then distributed across the
Commonwealth. The organization has already helped to
feed 3.5 million people; however, the biggest
obstacle this organization faces is funding because
it is not supported by any state funds or by the
United Way Agency. The VDGIF should commit to
annually fund this organization. This decision would
further support the ethical perspective of hunting,
as well as aid in the solution to reduce deer
populations.
There have been
suggestions of reintroducing predators to
counter-act the sudden surge of deer populations.
However, deer respond to drastic population die-offs
by reproducing an immense amount of offspring. In
addition, predators are more likely to prey upon the
weakest of their prey selection, such as pets and
trapped livestock. There is no guarantee that they
will solve the problem, and then they will be
consuming an already limited and overcrowded space.
For these reasons, the restoration of new, natural
predators may not be successful.
The VDGIF fully supports
the action of hunting to reduce deer overpopulation.
The VDGIF should work to implement quota hunts, as
well as support organizations who demonstrate an
ethical and sportsmanlike approach to hunting, such
as Hunters for the Hungary. In the past decades,
deer populations have been maintained with limiting
factors such as food, space, cover, and water.
However, now more than ever people need to intervene
to solve this solution; hunters can make the
difference.
References
“About VDGIF.” (2008).
Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries.
Retrieved October 21, 2008, from
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/about/.
“Deer: General
Information.” (2008). Virginia Department of Game
and Inland Fisheries. Retrieved October 21, 2008,
from
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/deer.asp
“Deer herd Health.”
(2008). White Tail Solutions. Retrieved October 21,
2008, from
http://whitetailsolutionsllc.com/Deer_Herd_Health.html
“Deer Management in
Fairfax County.” (2008). Fairfax County, Viginia.
Retrieved October 21, 2008, from
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/comm/deer/deermgt.htm#control
Eaton, R. L. (n.d.). Why Hunting is Good Medicine
for Youth, Society, and the Environment. Retrieved
October 22, 2008, from IWMC World Conservation Trust
Web site:
http://www.iwmc.org/IWMC-Forum/
RandallEaton/030504-1.htm
“Hunters for the Hungry.”
Hunters for the Hungry. Retrieved October 21, 2008,
from
http://www.h4hungry.org/operate.htm
Lane, J (2006, December
28). Hunting controls deer populations. Chatham
Journal, Retrieved October 28, 2008, from
http://www.chathamjournal.com/weekly/opinion/chatlist/hunting-is-necessary-61228.shtml
Macmillan, A. (2005,
October 11). Whats Wrong With Deer Hunting?
Retrieved October 22, 2008, from
http://newsgroups.derkeiler. com/Archive/Uk/uk.politics.animals/2005-10/msg00000.html
The Economic Importance
of Hunting. (n.d.). Retrieved October 23, 2008, from
California Department of Fish and Game Web site:
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/econ.hunting.html
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From:
G.A.S. - Governor's and Science - Other Stakeholder
-
Statement
11/13/2008
9:28:00 AM
We support your proposed plan for managing the deer
population, and suggest that
you consider incorporating elements of our proposal.
In particular, we believe that
the synergistic effects of a coordination of the
quota system and regulated hunting
periods in state parks would prove to be
extraordinarily beneficial to our efforts at
controlling the burgeoning deer population on a
statewide basis.
Moderator
Comments: First, congratulations on a well
written POV. I want to pose a question to you.
-
On the main
forum page I noted that one of the challenges
for developing management programs that reduce
the deer herd to levels that are good for the
forest ecosystem and agriculture is that hunters
get upset when it starts to work and they see
fewer deer and have the chance to shoot fewer
deer - and begin to complain loudly to the
agencies to change their policies. You can
see that exact response in some of the eForum
POVs. One link on the main eForum
page was to an Audubon article that described
these challenges. I note that the link is
now broken because Audubon changed their url
(drat),
here is the correct one. In
order for your suggestions to work, you will
have to build a consensus in the real world
where people jealously guard their turf.
How do you suggest we do that?
At the
moment, most decisions made about deer
management are made by wildlife agencies.
Who else should have a seat at the table?
Should insurance companies? Foresters?
Ecologists? Environmentalists? Farmers?
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G.A.S. -
Governor's and Science Mountain Vista Governors
School
Government
11/3/2008
2:25:00 PM
The
Government and the Deer Dilemma
As
state-funded biologists and wildlife managers in
state parks, we work with the effects of the deer
population daily. Our expertise in the areas of
ecology and biology will
be of significant value to the interstate
effort to curb the exponential growth of the deer
population in the eastern United States. We see
ourselves as active members in reaching an
effective, sound-science solution that will
address this difficult
problem. And as representatives of the state
government, we feel
obligated to present cost effective, comprehensive
recommendations that use a variety of effective
approaches to control the various aspects of the
deer issue.
Any environmentally conscious solution requires the
support and assistance of state biologists and game
wardens to succeed. As the top professionals in our
fields, state-employed biologists possess a wealth
of statistical knowledge from intensive academic
studies and field research relating to ecology and
the balance of ecosystems. Game wardens and wildlife
managers of state parks and wildlife management
areas contribute extensive practical experience and
unique perceptions of specific communities. In
addition, our jobs are deeply involved with the same
ecosystems and communities which the deer inhabit;
as consultants and caretakers for wildlife
management areas and state parks affected by the
problem, we will also be deeply involved in the
solution to the deer overpopulation crisis.
The problem
affects us in a variety of ways. The state parks we
study and manage are stripped of seedlings as the
herds swarm through, and biodiversity dwindles in
proportion to the exponential growth of the herds.
Plant species vanish rapidly as deer continue to
overgraze ; when the deer finally abandon the area,
we find that many of the more fragile species have
vanished, having been trampled or swallowed by the
voracious herds of
white-tailed deer. This leaves only the hardiest and
most common plants behind, and reduces both the
general biodiversity of the community and the gene
pool available to the surviving plants. In turn,
other animals are faced with starvation and heavy
competition for the remaining food supplies, which
often drives them to forage in suburban or urban
areas. There they become vulnerable to a plethora of
dangers associated with contact with human
communities, including motor vehicle accidents,
attacks by domestic pets, and mass predation by
other animals driven into the suburbs in search of
prey. The beneficial interactions, (such as
population control, mutualistic or commensal
relationships, fertilization of soil, erosion
prevention, flood prevention, and air purification)
that the exiled plants and animals carried out with
each other, along with the
deer and abiotic factors in the environment,
will stop, causing the system to tilt even further
out of equilibrium.
The
solutions already proposed by various members of the
community would affect us in a variety of ways. For
example, there is considerable political pressure to
utilize nonlethal methods from organizations such as
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA).
The primary nonlethals are cervid contraception
treatments, administered through medicated feed, and
tranquilization and transport of deer to less
populated locations. But these types of solutions,
although proposed by well-meaning organizations,
have serious practical limitations. Cervid
contraception treatments require more biological
studies to ascertain their efficiency before being
mass-applied; implementation on a grand scale could
be delayed for an extended period of time, allowing
the overpopulation problem to progress, possibly to
the point of a population collapse. By this time,
the effects of the overpopulation crisis could well
be irreversible; disease and starvation would become
rampant throughout most local populations, and
suffering deer would clog the parks and roadways. In
addition, contraception research and treatments are
disproportionately expensive in relation to the
effect they have on the deer population. Likewise,
tranquilization and transportation of disruptive
populations of deer from suburban and urban areas is
difficult and non-cost-effective; many deer die
during or directly after transport, rendering the
expensive tranquilizer injection applied to them a
complete waste. We do not consider contraception or
tranquilization valid solutions for the present
crisis, as their problematic aspects outweigh their
benefits. Lethal methods, then, are what remain.
The practice of hiring professional sharpshooters to
cull deer herds, usually in densely populated urban
or suburban areas, has often proven intensely
controversial. As a result, the political pressure
to avoid it placed upon wildlife managers may
discourage its use, as a wildlife manager who
opposes superiors on such a sensitive issue may be
ignored or punished. Further, the influence of
external agencies that oppose the practice can
hamstring future funding or research grants.
Sharpshooting has proven impractical on a large
scale, usually resulting in small, minimally useful
culls, and as such has often proven
counterproductive to wildlife managers in light of
its potentially negative political ramifications.
Handing out
extra tags to licensed hunters or assigning kill
permits as compensation for landowners is a merely a
slight complication of registration and record
maintenance, and one which we are willing to
undertake in order to help restore balance to the
environment, but alone this method cannot
completely solve the overpopulation problem.
Therefore,
we propose a comprehensive solution to the deer
overpopulation crisis, comprised of several
synergistic elements. Solutions will vary,
depending on the human population density of the
area in question. In rural areas and state parks,
the primary control element would be specifically
targeted hunting. Humans are the white-tailed deer’s
only widespread predator in the eastern states
capable of effectively reducing populations.
State-regulated hunting is an effective and logical
solution. With 20.6 million hunters in the United
States, licensed at the state level, there is a
demonstrated this ability to effect statistically
substantial reductions in the deer population.
State game departments have the ability to flexibly
regulate authorized deer harvest quantities for male
and female deer, thus enabling wildlife managers to
target harvests with respect to varying populations.
This typically takes the form of seasonal
regulations prescribing specific numbers of male and
female deer that may be harvested by individual
hunters. These numbers can be flexible, as
determined by region. For example, in the state of
Virginia, for the 2008 hunting season in the area
west of the Blue Ridge Mountains, hunters are
permitted three antlerless and two antlered deer; in
the area east of the Blue Ridge, the proscribed
limit is three antlered and three antlerless deer.
This illustrates the ability of the state
governments to regulate doe-buck harvesting ratios
in specific areas, in order to reduce reproductive
rates. Meticulous records will be kept at checkpoint
stations throughout the area as a deterrent to
hunters violating these ratios. In addition, on
specific days state parks will be allowed to open
their doors to a certain number of hunters for a
certain number of hours, allowing them to hunt deer
within a restricted area with short-range weapons as
per all state regulations.
Suburban
and urban areas will require a different approach,
due to the greater human population density and the
safety issues of
firearm discharge within a certain proximity to
residential areas and roads, as addressed by state
and local ordinances. The dispersal of deer
populations from these human-populated areas will
depend on the effect of the deer control within
state parks and rural areas. Deer will naturally
migrate to their preferred habitats once they can be
comfortably supported there; they prefer to be away
from human habitation, but have been forced to adapt
to close-proximity habitats in order to survive. In
special cases, sharpshooters may be used to
eliminate especially disruptive deer populations,
especially in urban areas.
Governmental land managers and biologists are
already deeply involved in the deer population
crisis. We possess unique insight into the deer
population problem, and are willing to contribute
our considerable store of expertise on behalf of the
effort to resolve this issue. Overpopulation of the
white-tailed deer affects numerous stakeholders,
including us; many of the problems we encounter in
our daily work center around it, and different
aspects of the problem can determine the state
policies and regulations we cooperate to compile.
Proposed solutions to the deer dilemma affect us
just as profoundly as the dilemma itself. Parks and
rural areas will benefit from stringent hunting
regulations, such as those already in effect in some
states, which mandate the number of antlerless deer
and antlered deer which may be harvested by a single
licensed hunter in a season, and as the rural cervid
population declines and the rural ecosystem comes
closer to balance the urban and suburban populations
will move back into the woods and fields where they
truly belong. Perhaps this can be accomplished with
the synergy of the support and active effort of all
the stakeholders invested in the deer dilemma,
including the state government and the science
behind its decisions.
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Moderator
Comments: First, congratulations on a well
written POV. I want to post a question or two.
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You said: "Deer
will naturally migrate to their preferred
habitats once they can be comfortably supported
there; they prefer to be away from human
habitation, but have been forced to adapt to
close-proximity habitats in order to survive."
Are you sure about that? Doesn't suburbia
offer lots of tasty bits for them to browse on?
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On the main
forum page I noted that one of the challenges
for developing management programs that reduce
the deer herd to levels that are good for the
forest ecosystem and agriculture is that hunters
get upset when it starts to work and they see
fewer deer and have the chance to shoot fewer
deer - and begin to complain loudly to the
agencies to change their policies. You can
see that exact response in some of the eForum
POVs. One link on the main eForum
page was to an Audubon article that described
these challenges. I note that the link is
now broken because Audubon changed their url
(drat),
here is the correct one. In
order for your suggestions to work, you will
have to build a consensus in the real world
where people jealously guard their turf.
How do you suggest we do that?
At the
moment, most decisions made about deer
management are made by wildlife agencies.
Who else should have a seat at the table?
Should insurance companies? Foresters?
Ecologists? Environmentalists? Farmers?
Response G.A.S.
- Governor's and Science - Other Stakeholder - MVGS
11/24/2008
6:29:00 AM
1. The deer's habitat
was stripped away from them and therefore they
must be living in the suburban area until they
have the option to leave. Currently they cannot
because of the overpopulation in the wooded more
natural areas. The pressures and dangers of
living in the suburban area outweigh the
benefits to a few tasty snacks.
2. We believe that every stakeholder group with
a claim in the issue should be able to express
their opinions and those opinions should receive
serious consideration.
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The Outlaws Petersburg H.S
Extreme Hunters
11/5/2008
8:04:00 AM
Hunters coming to West
Virginia have to hunt harder and longer due to the
fact that the deer population has been lowered
juristically. The reasons for lower deer population
are because of the chronic wasting disorder and due
to predators such as the black bear.
CWD is a neurological (brain and nervous system)
disease of deer. It is a slow accumulation of
abnormal prions in the brain and lymphatic tissues
of deer that ultimately results in the death of the
animal. (1)
The Mountain State's deer herd isn't what it was
just a few short years ago. Partly by design and
partly by mistake, wildlife officials have allowed
whitetail populations to dwindle to levels not seen
since the early 1990s. The bottom line is: Deer
harvests have plummeted. Last year, hunters killed
just 179,066 animals during the buck, antler less,
muzzleloader and archery seasons combined. Not since
1994 has the total been that low. (2)
In conclusion, the deer population has been taken
out by the chronic waste disorder not the hunters.
There are also predators that feast on them which
makes their population less than those in other
states. Due to the deer population decreasing so
does the amount of tax revenue that the state
receives. The deer population needs to increase, so
that more hunters will want to live here and so that
the tax revenue is increased.
References: 1
www.wvgameandfish.com
2
www.biggamehunt.
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From:
Girl With Big Guns - hunter – BGHS
Ask
11/6/2008
8:11:00 AM
has anyone addressed this situation with the game
commission? Further research
obviously needs to be done to come up wit ha method
of decreasing the number of
deer effected by this disease that’s is why the
state hires wildlife biologist after all.
From:
The Outlaws - Other Stakeholder - PHS
Statement
11/12/2008
8:17:00 AM
You did a very good job on your paper. You provided
alot of good information.
From:
Artist - Other Stakeholder - HHS
Ask
11/17/2008
9:26:00 AM
If there is such a deer shortage, than why are there
so many runover deer on the
road?
From:
Deer Assassins - hunter - BGHS
Ask
11/19/2008
8:54:00 AM
What kind if diseases do the deer carry?
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$THE MONEY MAKERS$
Petersburg H.S
business owners
11/5/2008
8:06:00 AM
Ohhhhh Deer!
Deer affect the economy by overpopulating a small
area of land that could be used to build new
businesses. As the economy grows many people want to
build bigger and better buildings to hold their
businesses. Eventually, there will be no land to
build on because that land is labeled as a natural
habitat for the deer. As business owners we think
more land should be available for us to purchase.
The deer should be moved away from valuable land
that could potentially be purchased for economic
purposes.
(1.) There are several negative impacts that come
with the overpopulation of deer. Many people
experience agricultural damage, such as farmers who
constantly have to deal with having the deer on
their land. Deer vehicle collisions are on the rise.
During the past eight years, the reported number of
collisions in the Potomac area has doubled. (2.)
Disease is also spreading throughout the deer
population, which can pose a threat to humanity.
We as business owners have seen first hand how the
deer have affected our fellow business partners and
us. The various car and body shops profit greatly
from the overpopulation due to the severe damage to
vehicles caused by deer. Farmers also suffer
financially from loss and damage to crops.
Overpopulation of deer affects many businesses in
various ways. The only way to solve this is to lower
the deer population and reduce the rate at which the
deer are breeding.
References
(1.)
http://www.nalgep.org/about/news.
(2.)
www.idausa.org/facts/deercontrol.html
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Thoughtful Questions:
From:
Buck Masters - hunter - BGHS
Ask
11/6/2008
7:57:00 AM
how will you move the deer and how many will you
move? and where will you move
them to?
Response
$THE MONEY MAKERS$ - Other Stakeholder -
11/12/2008
8:16:00 AM
Well if you're that concerned about where we want to
move them, then we'll
move them into your backyard and they will become
your problem and not
ours.
From:
Girl With Big Guns - hunter – BGHS
Ask
11/6/2008
8:12:00 AM
Deer shouldn’t be moved
completely out of their homes just for urbanization.
Too much land is already being destroyed for this.
These deer are actually helping the economy by
hunters purchasing licenses and spending money on
equipment. Taking their home away from them isn’t a
solution.
From Moderator. I
guess I'll repeat Buck Master's question "how
will you move the deer and how many will you move?"
It was a good question. Have you ever
tried to round up wild animals?
From:
Deer Assassins - hunter - BGHS
Ask
11/19/2008
8:56:00 AM
I think that Buck Masters had a very good question
that i would also like to know the
answer to.
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